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V-Line Security Cases and Cabinets

By: MaggieG | January 3rd, 2008

V-Line’s Security Cases and Cabinets provide an ideal hiding place for small valuables such as firearms as well as jewelry, household cash, extra credit cards, and medicines. They are great for use at home, office, and in the RV.

V-Line Cases are popular with law-enforcement agencies: The State of California, F.B.I., I.R.S., U.S. Postal Service, T.S.A., district attorneys, many city and county police and fire departments are just some of the agencies using V-Line products. Many agencies are concerned with liability issues for their officers who have firearms in their vehicles and who bring their duty firearms home.

The mechanical lock featured by V-Line eliminates worries of dead batteries at inopportune times. The push button lock allows quick and easy access, without keys that can be lost or fall into the wrong hands. The combination is easy to program and can be quietly opened in low light by feel. 

A big safe in the garage may be ideal for a firearms collection, but the self-defense firearm in the master bedroom also needs protection while maintaining easy access. V-Line Cases and Cabinets can be easily installed to provide convenient access. 

V-Line Cases and Cabinets are available in a variety of sizes and configurations to meet individual needs. Mounting Brackets offer easy installation with portability; one Mounting Bracket may be installed at home, a second in the office or RV, providing protection at any storage location. Valuables and firearms need never be unsecured or exposed again.

V-Line prides itself in exceptional quality of design and workmanship from the welded hinges, staked for added security, to the precisely sized and formed body and lid. The tightest tolerances possible have been used for optimum security. A handsome gold tone ink pinstripe and logo design accent the durable powder-coated finish.

Customer service and support is available from our factory located in southern California.

V-Line’s Top Draw, Compact, Desk Mate, Hide-Away, and Quick Vault models are “California-approved firearm safety devices” that meet the requirements of California Penal Code Section 12088 and the regulations issued thereunder.

V-Line Top Draw Handgun Pistol Safe, Model 2912-STop Draw model 2912-S 

The Top Draw model 2912-S with its traditional top opening lid and classic slim design is a popular unit. An optional Quick Release Mounting Bracket is available to enable the Case to be used in more than one location.

Measuring 12” x 9” x 2 ½” deep, (OD), 11 ¾” x 8 ¾” x 2” (ID) the Top Draw is large enough to accommodate two handguns. Foam lining on top and bottom holds and protects contents securely in place.

V-Line has exaggerated the clamshell design with the door folding over the body, encompassing it to prevent a prying attack. An inner flange allows the lock bolt to lock into the body of the case, increasing the pry-resistance. A 3/8” thick steel lock block welded to the cover guides and strengthens the lock bolt.

California Dept. of Justice approved

The V-Line Compact Handgun Pistol Safe, Model 279-SCompact model 279-S

For a smaller top opening unit V-Line’s Compact has many of the same features as the Top Draw; clamshell design, locking bolt locks into the body of the case, welded and staked hinge. It measures 9 ½” x 7 ¼” x 2 ¼” (OD), 9” x 6 ½” x 1 ½” (ID) and has a shipping weight of 5 pounds. Felt lining pads the interior of the Compact.

California Dept. of Justice approved

The V-Line Hide-away Handgun Pistol Safe, Model 3912-SHHide-Away model 3912-SH and Desk Mate model 2597-SThe V-Line Desk Mate Handgun Pistol Safe, Model 2597-S

V-Line’s Hide-Away and Desk Mate models are designed to easily install under a bed, desk, or counter with the included Quick Release Mounting Bracket.

The Hide-Away’s front opening door drops down to allow the felt lined inner drawer to slide out for easy access to contents. Measuring 11 ½” x 7” x 2” the drawer is large enough to comfortably hold most sized handguns plus a badge, wallet, or second firearm. The Hide-Away is also ideal for securing small valuables, jewelry, or medicines out of sight and reach of children and household visitors.

The smaller sized Desk Mate offers additional installation possibilities, such as inside a cupboard or console compartment. A slide out tray is available as an option for the Desk Mate.

Optional Universal Mounting Brackets are available to allow the Hide-Away and Desk Mate to be installed on top of a surface. Additional Quick Release Mounting Brackets may also be purchased.

The Hide-Away is 12 ½” x 9” x 3 ½”, (OD) 11 ½” x 7” x 2”, (ID) and weighs 18 pounds. 
The Desk Mate measures 7 ½” x 10 ½” x 2 ½”, (OD) 6 ½” x 8 ¼” x 1 ¾”, (ID) and weighs 8 pounds. 

California Dept. of Justice approved

The V-Line Quick Vault Wall Safe, Model 41214-SQuick Vault model 41214-S 

V-Line’s Quick Vault is the perfect “Hiding Place” to secure valuables and firearms without compromising quick and easy access.

The Quick Vault is designed to install in between the wall studs, the Case mounts flush with the wall’s surface; hang a picture over the Quick Vault for complete concealment. 

The door of the Quick Vault is inset for both flush installation as well as maximum security. An inner steel frame gives added protection to the door guarding against prying attacks.

Felt lining on the side and back walls cushion contents. A felt lined adjustable shelf provides additional storage space. Additional shelves may be ordered. The Quick Vault is large enough to handle most handguns plus wallet, jewelry, and small valuables. 

14” x 12” x 4” (OD) 
17” x 15” x 4” overall all outside dimension including flange
13” x 11 ¼” x 2 ¾” (ID) 

The V-Line Shotgun Case, Model 3842-SAShotgun Case model 3842-SA and Rifle Case 31242-SAThe V-Line Rifle Case, Model 31242-SA

Security for long guns has not been forgotten at V-Line. 
The Shotgun Case measures 42” x 8” x 3 ½”, (OD), 41” x 7” x 2 ¾” (ID), weighing 30 lbs. 

If more room is needed the Rifle Case is 42” x 12” x 3 ½”, (OD), 41” x 11” x 2 ¾” (ID), weighing 38 lbs. The Rifle Case is wide enough for an AR-15 or short scoped rifle.

The mechanical push button lock is featured; additionally 2 tubular key locks provide extra security when quick access is not needed.
Both models can be installed horizontally or vertically; they are designed to bolt to the surface of a wall or floor. Foam liner cushions top, bottom and back. 
These models are also popular with law-enforcement agencies.

The V-Line Closet Vault, Model 51653-SACloset Vault model 51653-SA

V-Line Ind.’s Closet Vault was designed to install in between the wall studs, the door and frame protrude 2”outside the wall to provide extra internal depth. 
Measuring 50” x 14” x 5 ¾” (OD), 53” x 16 ¾” x 5 ¾” including outside flange,
49” x 13 ½” x 4 ¾” (ID), shipping weight is 70 lbs.
It can accommodate 3 - 4 long guns, (depending on their size). The Closet Vault can be easily hidden in a closet or behind a door.

The door fits flush into the frame of the Closet Vault. Two tubular key locks have been added to the mechanical lock at the top and bottom for additional security when quick access is not required.

One adjustable Barrel Support is included with each Closet Vault, a felt liner on the bottom cushions gun-stocks. Optional Full and Half shelves as well as a Gun Caddy, Pistol Rack and Pegboard door panel are available to customize the Closet Vault to best meet individual needs.

The Closet Vault is ideal for the collector or law-enforcement personnel who want to keep a couple of firearms secured and within easy reach, or the individual with a just couple of firearms he wants to secure.

An Additional Note:

Travelers should be mindful of transportation laws if they travel with a firearm. V-Line’s Security Cases meet many of the states’ and airlines’ laws regulating transportation of firearms. Travelers are encouraged to always check state and local laws.

Ten Things You Didn’t Know About UL’s Safe Testing

By: Bo | December 14th, 2007
  1. The best safecrackers in the business never steal a penny. They work for UL.
  2. UL has been testing and certifying safes for more than 80 years. The first safe tested for burglary resistance was in 1923 and the first bank vault in 1925.
  3. Chisels, wenches, screwdrivers, power saws, cutting torches, crowbars, abrasive cutting wheels, jackhammers, even specified amounts of nitroglycerin are just a few of the “tools” UL technicians use during a safe attack. The idea is to test safes to worst-case scenarios. They use tools that could be found at any construction site or hardware store. They also analyze blueprints as if the burglar might have blueprints of the design and attack its weakest points to evaluate the safe for certification.
  4. UL’s safe attack tests are conducted by a two-person crew. The object is to create an opening large enough to withdraw “valuables” (anywhere from 2- to 6-square-inches on a safe and up to 96-square-inches on a vault), activate the locking mechanism so the door opens or to cut as many bolts from the door as necessary to pry it open before the time specified in the rating requirement expires.
  5. Safes are rated for their resistance to attack against specific tools for a set period of time. There are a dozen different ratings, everything from ATM machines, to gun safes to bank vaults. For example, a safe that bears a Class TRTL-15×6 rating, which might be found in a jewelry store, should resist a hand tool and torch attack for a minimum of 15 minutes. A TRTL-30×6-rated safe, which would protect important documents or store money, should withstand an attack for 30 minutes. The ultimate safe rating — a TXTL60 — should withstand an hour’s worth of attack that includes the use of 8 ounces of nitroglycerin.
  6. Because of the size and weight of certain safes and vault doors, it is not always practical to have the product shipped to UL’s laboratory locations. UL’s burglary protection staff has traveled to destinations such as Japan, France, Israel, England, Finland, Taiwan and India.
  7. In addition to burglary protection ratings, UL also rates safes for their fire resistance protection. Class 350 safes protect paper documents, Class 150 safes protect magnetic tape and photographic film, while Class 125 safes protect floppy disks. In addition to the Class Rating, safes obtain an hourly rating for fire resistance — anywhere from 30 minutes to four hours.
  8. Another cool test UL runs on safes is an impact test. This test simulates a safe falling though multiple stories of a building — resulting from a fire that has weakened the structure. After the safe is heated to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit in a furnace, it’s raised three stories and dropped onto a pile of bricks. In order to meet the requirement, the safe can’t pop open. Temperatures inside can’t rise to above 300 degrees Fahrenheit and sample papers left inside have to be readable.
  9. The specialized suits you sometimes find technicians wearing are not just for show. Their entire ensemble, including protective coat, helmet and gloves, protects the crew against the adverse effects of sparking. After all, safety can’t be taken for granted, even within the walls of UL.
  10. Safes are just one of the 19,000 product categories that UL tests and certifies. While UL’s burglary protection team cracks combinations, shatters glass and fires .44-caliber bullets at body armor, other UL engineers and technicians keep busy testing everything from TVs, coffee makers and holiday light strings to fire extinguishers, medical CAT scan equipment and building materials.

Mechanical Locks vs. Electronic Locks

By: JohnS | December 6th, 2007

As a security professional, I firmly believe that an electronic lock is far superior to a mechanical dial. They are easier to use, easy to program, have a high success rate, and offer features that a mechanical lock is not capable of doing. Also they have proven to be more secure.

Before I was in the safe industry, I remember my first time trying to enter in the combination to my first safe. The key word is trying! Ten tries and 15 minutes later, I finally was able to enter in the combination correctly and get into my safe. Who has time for that? After that I was sold on the electronic lock. Entering in a combination on the electronic lock takes 5 seconds!

What’s even better is that you can change a code on the electronic keypad faster than what it takes even the most experienced safe dialer to dial in a combination on the mechanical lock. Also, with an electronic lock, you can enter your code and gain entry in low light. To change the combination on a mechanical lock, a safe professional must come out and change the combination for you. This can be a costly expense.

As a tip, look for safes with UL classified locks. Whether it is a mechanical dial or electronic lock, safes with a UL classification have been tested against wear and tear, and have proven extremely reliable. Also, there are different classifications given to certain locks. If the safe is a mechanical lock, the classification is called a “Group”. Simply put, there are two groups; “Group I” or “Group II”. “Group I” being a more secure lock, while “Group II” is a basic lock used on most home and gun safes. Electronic locks are classified as “Type I”. A “Type I” electronic lock is equivalent to a Mechanical “Group I” lock. A “Group II” Mechanical lock has a total of 50,000 usable combinations while a “Type I” electronic lock has 1 million usable combinations!

How are the electronic locks powered, you ask? In most cases, electronic locks take 1 or 2 9V alkaline batteries. What if the batteries die? In each lock there is a chip that retains your combination for up to 10 years in case of battery failure. This means you have plenty of time to put a new battery or batteries in, enter your code, and open your safe.

 Sargent and Greenleaf Mechanical Combination Safe Lock

According to the lock manufacturers, it is recommended that mechanical locks be serviced once a year to maintain proper function. The average cost for this service is between $100-150 per year. The only servicing that is ever needed on an electronic lock is replacing the battery.

Electronic locks can offer some cool features that a mechanical combination dial cannot. Standard on most electronic locks is a lockout feature. After 3 unsuccessful attempts at opening the safe, the keypad will freeze up for five minutes keeping a potential thief out of your safe. Time delayed opening is an option often used by businesses such as gas stations and fast food restaurants to prevent someone who is holding them up a quick getaway. Duress is an additional feature that is wired into an alarm system that sends a silent signal to the alarm company that lets them know you are being held up at gunpoint. The safe will open but the police will be on the robbers trail quickly. Duress and Time Delay are available at a nominal charge.

 Lagard Digital Keypad for all types of safes including gun safes

Electronic locks are virtually manipulation proof, whereas mechanical dials can be manipulated. In the old days, safe cracking was an art that took lots of focus and concentration. While there are still technicians and that use this method, to open safes, there is a device that can robotically open a safe with a mechanical dial just as fast and much easier. In fact, these devices are commercially sold and most safe technicians own one. If this device falls into the wrong hands, the losses of personal property can be devastating. Here is a link to an article by Kyle Vogt called “On Robotics and Changing the World” that explains how 2 MIT students built a homemade, automated safe dialer, how it works, and how long it took them to get into a safe with a mechanical dial lock.

Safe Ratings Explained

By: Bo | November 16th, 2007

Fort Knox Gun Safe Fire Label Fort Knox Gun Safes fire label for their Reinforced Fire Door

Safe ratings can be confusing — but we’re here to help! Be sure you know what the ratings mean so you don’t get the wrong safe.

Burglary Ratings

“B” Rate Safe: A safe with at least a 1/4 inch body, 1/2 inch door. These safes face no testing and the presence of a locking device on the box give them the “B” rating. When buying a B-rate safe, look at things such as lock work, relocks and other features when making your decision.

RSC (Residential Security Container): This is an Underwriters Laboratory™ security rating (Underwriters Laboratory™ is the best known of about 500 non-biased independent testing laboratories, known as U.L.™). The safe must withstand five minutes of rigorous prying, drilling, punching, chiseling, and tampering attacks and must be tested using specific common burglary tools to prevent access to the contents.

“C” Rate Safe: This is defined as a 1/2 inch thick steel box with a 1 inch thick door and a lock on it. It must have hard plate and a re-lock. As before no tests are given to provide this rating.

“E” Rate Safe: This rating is an insurance rating. It is normally a safe similar in construction to a TL-15, yet has not been tested by an Independent testing company. It is normally a composite or plate safe.

“ER” Rate Safe (E Revised) - U.L.™ TL-15 Rate: “ER” is an insurance rating - Safes given a U.L.™ TL-15 rating have all passed standardized tests defined in UL© Standard 687 using the same tools and usually the same group of testing engineers. The label requires that the safe be constructed of 1 inch solid steel or equivalent. The label means that the safe has been tested for a net working time of 15 minutes using “…common hand tools, drills, punches, hammers, and pressure applying devices.” Net working time means simply” when the tool comes off the safe the clock stops”. There are over fifty different types of attacks that can be used to gain entrance into the safe. Usually they will try only 2 or 3 based on what they know about the product, and they know a lot.

“F” Rate Safe - U.L.™ TL-30 Rate: “F” is an insurance rating - The tests given for this rating are essentially the same as the TL-15 tests except for, you guessed it, the net working time. They get 30 minutes and a few more tools to help them gain entrance. Keep in mind these engineers have the manufacturing blue prints and can disassemble the safe being tested before the test begins to see how it works. They know their stuff.

“G & A” Rate Safe - U.L™ TL-30 X6 Rate: “G & A” is an insurance ratings - The tests for these safes are essentially the same as the TL-30 test except that the safe is tested on all 6 sides, including the floor of the safe. Again the engineers can disassemble the unit prior to testing and have access to the blue prints to see how the safe is built and how it works.

Fire Ratings

1/2 Hour - U.L.™ class 350 Rate Safe: This safe has been tested by the Underwriters Laboratory™. The unit is heated for one-half hour to reach an exterior temperature of 1550 degrees. Because paper will begin to char at approximately 400 degrees, the unit being tested must maintain an interior temperature of less than 350 degrees during heat-up and cool-down testing in order to earn it’s rating. At U.L.™ after the safe has hit the test time the safe is removed from the oven and hoisted 30 feet (equal to 3 flights of a building) and dropped on to concrete rubble, it is allowed to cool and then picked up and placed back into a 2000 degree preheated oven (this is called the explosive test). It is done to see if the door will blow off, then it remains in the oven and the contents of the safe must come out unharmed.

1 Hour - U.L™ class 350 Rate Safe: To earn this rating, the safe is heated for one hour to reach an exterior temperature of 1550 degrees, then put through the cool down test. Like the 1/2 Hour test the safe must maintain an interior temperature of less than 350 degrees throughout the test. At U.L.™ after the safe has hit the test time the safe is removed from the oven and hoisted 30 feet (equal to 3 flights of a building) and dropped on to concrete rubble, it is allowed to cool and then picked up and placed back into a 2000 degree preheated oven (this is called the explosive test). It is done to see if the door will blow off, then it remains in the oven and the contents of the safe must come out unharmed.

2 Hour - U.L™ class 350 Rate Safe: The safe is heated for two hours to reach an exterior temperature of 1550 degrees, then put through the cool down test. During the complete process the interior of the safe cannot drop below 350 degrees. At U.L.™ after the safe has hit the test time the safe is removed from the oven and hoisted 30 feet (equal to 3 flights of a building) and dropped on to concrete rubble, it is allowed to cool and then picked up and placed back into a 2000 degree preheated oven (this is called the explosive test). It is done to see if the door will blow off, then it remains in the oven and the contents of the safe must come out unharmed.

Data Safes

1 Hour - U.L.™ class 150 Rate Safe - This is a test done to protect computer data for 1 Hour. The inside of the safe remains below 150 degrees for the entire test both in the oven and cool down period.

2 Hour - U.L.™ class 150 Rate Safe - This is a test done to protect computer data for a 2 hour period. The inside of the safe remains below 150 degrees for the entire test both in the oven and cool down period.

1 Hour - U.L.™ class 125 Rate Safe - This is a test done to protect computer data for a 1 hour period. the inside of the safe remains below 125 degrees for the entire test both in the oven and cool down period.

After the disaster

By: MaggieG | November 3rd, 2007

So the fires are almost out, the floods are coming and where are we now? People are rushing to close the barn door after the horse has already escaped! Whoops, I’m showing my age. That’s an old saying which means that we don’t think something is going to happen until it does and then we try to fix it, instead of preparing for it to happen before it happens. I keep thinking about how we can let the people out there know that it is inevitable …. as long as we live in a desert like community and the weather offers the exact same contributing factors every year, how can we not prepare for what will one day most likely happen - a fire, a flood, a burglary.

 Get those precious pictures of the kids, grandkids, great-grandkids, etc. in a safe rated for fire. Get those cd disks or negatives, full of the years of memories into the proper safe so they will survive a fire. Putting them into a safe purchased from a box store or stationary outlet will not save them they are for the protection of paper which burns at 451 degrees. These safes will allow the interior of the safe to reach 350 degrees. Disks and negatives melt at about 200 degrees.

And they definitely will not keep the burglar out. If you put anything that a burglar would be happy to take to steal your identity into one of those safes, you are asking for trouble. Just think about it - you get in your car, you drive down to the nearest stationary outlet or big box store and you walk in. You pick out the safe you want, what you think will protect your valuables. You put it in the basket and you wheel it to the counter, pay for it and wheel it out to the car. You put it in the trunk, you take it home and carry it into the house. You put it in the closet, gather up all your valuables and put them inside. Everything’s safe, right?

You don’t bolt it down, you don’t make it hard for anyone who breaks into your house to pick it up and carry it out. Boy are they going to get a great holiday present when they open it up! Because of the nature of these safes small size, you wrap your valuables up in a nice neat package that a burglar can pick up and carry out.

And the saddest thing to me is that people out there always think “It won’t happen to me”. I was never a boyscout (since I’m a female) but I certainly agree with their catch phrase “Be Prepared”.

Protecting Valuables from Southern California Fire Storms

By: MaggieG | October 23rd, 2007

I was watching KNBC 4 news this morning and Matt Lauer from the Today show was interviewing a couple from the fire ravaged San Diego County fire. They had lost their home and possessions and they spoke about walking through the burned out remains of their home and recalling that they recently purchased a safe to protect their valuables.

I watched as they talked about where the safe would have fallen from the second floor into the first. The gentleman knew right where it should have fallen and in going to that area they had found it, and they had dragged the safe out of just where they expected it to be. They showed the safe charred and dented, and the door was fused shut from the heat of the fire.

Being in the safe industry for about 10 years, I could identify the brand and the type of safe just from seeing it. It was a safe that was adequate for protecting papers and documents from fire (but not from burglary). This is a safe that you would find at a big box store or a stationary store. No one was there to tell them what it would be good for, or whether it was adequate for protecting his valuables.

I cringed when they mentioned that besides the usual documents inside the safe, they had had CDs and DVDs. I imaged what they would find. You see, these safes when manufactured are made to keep the interior of the safe at 350 degrees (paper burns at 451 degrees). CDs and DVDs melt at about 200 degrees. So there was a strong chance that any media kept in the safe would melt and probably destroy anything around it.

Whenever I see a catastrophe, like what we are having here in Southern California with the fires, I want to shout to the world that preparation is the most important thing. Don’t think “It can’t happen to me”. In a moment it could and you could lose all that is important to you

Educate yourself.. We have been in the safe business for over 30 years and we carry many safe manufacturers so that we can bring to our customers the best in the industry. We take the time to educate our customers because we believe an educated customer can make the right choice when it comes to protecting their valuables.

I am extremely grateful that this man, his wife and a relative got out of the fire alive, but it is heartbreaking, to know that most likely what he thought was going to help protect his valuables, may not have done a tremendous job.

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